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Like someone sees an alignment issue or a very specific aspect doesn’t feel right. Maybe that box should be moved a little bit more to the right, it should have a bit more padding –.īrett: No, see that kind of stuff I can live with.
That started getting me a lot of traffic and it was the beginning of actually seriously programming anything other than scripts and webpages.Īlexis: Now let’s go back to the whole I don’t know what it is, but I don’t like it kind of thing. It started in AppleScript and morphed into Objective-C.ĭavid Chartier over at The Unofficial Apple weblog at that time-he picked up on it and he loved it. It got out of hand like most of the stuff I do, but I was just doing it for fun. It had all these like syntax, like features-you could add Bang weather and insert the current temperature.
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Do you want the rest of the story now?īrett: While I was running the design studio, I started writing an app called MoodBlast and you could pop it out with a hot key and it would update nine different social services with one string. You know? They wouldn’t trust any decision that you made, but they had all these completely subjective criticism, and I just started coding. Eventually I decided that design critics are too annoying because you’d get all these clients that said things like “Hmm, I don’t know what it is but I don’t like it.”īrett: That would just drive me nuts.
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Then as the web developed, so did the tie between design and code-as someone who was working pretty much singlehandedly on everything, I had to get more into code again. Anyway, got into that and then after college I went more into design, started a design studio after having a job as an art director that I hated. I don’t know if anyone remembers Director but that used to be Macromedia and then became Adobe. Just quit and go to art school and I studied interactive multimedia there and got heavily into the design side but never stopped coding-even my interactive design projects were all based on Director. I just realized in that moment that I probably wasn’t going to get a computer science degree, so I went to art school. In my second year, I withdrew from Calc2 and that was a required class.
I went to school originally for Comp Sci after high school. It was the dawn of the web and things were not pretty at the time and that led me wanting to make prettier web pages and studying CSS more deeply. I’m sorry, not the Web – the Internet, because the Web wasn’t really in existence until my later years of high school, and that’s when I got into building web pages. All through high school I ran a BBS and I spent a lot of time on Gopher and just working around the Web and Linux and having fun. Instantly, as soon as I had my fingers on a keyboard, this kind of obsession with making computers do cool things instantly began.Īlexis: I guess it’s a little misleading for me to start by asking you that question since you were also very firmly in the design side of things, especially early on, right?īrett: See, that’s a part of the story.
Choices were limited back then or functionality was limited, but soon after you could program Lego with Logo and make robots and things, and that’s where it all started.
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I was really fascinated with the idea of providing a series of commands that made something happen. I figured out a little bit of BASIC and a little bit of Logo, and King’s Quest I and Jumpman, and got really into making computers do things.
He basically just let us play with it whenever he wasn’t doing drafting or spreadsheets.
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How did you first start programming?īrett: My dad brought home a PC junior – that would have been ’83 or ’84 – and I was six at the time. Both of them are over at esn.fm now.Īlexis: Anyway, let’s start from the beginning. That’s with Christina Warren and it’s really fun. We never know what we’re going to talk about when we sit down.īrett: We’ll brainstorm for about five minutes before we start recording, whatever pops in our head, and just talk about it. It’s more pop culture and completely 100% random. Alexis: Yeah, 40 episodes in a couple of days is not something I regret, I tell you.īrett: I would say that Overtired is almost a different audience.
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